I've read and watched most of the reviews of this game, and I cannot think of a single instance of someone praising DK Metcalf for his game of 76 yards on 6 targets and 6 receptions. I thought it was his best game as a pro. He made difficult catches, some he wouldn't have caught in years past. He could easily have had two TD's to add to his stat line.
Who knew we were so deep at Tackle...turns out we have four starters. That is a pleasant surprise to me. As they say (well actually as "I" say), " offense depends upon, begins and ends upon the O-line!"
Overstated? Nahhh...championships are won in the trenches.
Seems to me Geno's comfort zone is better in Road Games, not at Home. Watching Stafford last week showed us what some QBs bring, as they find the calmness to read the situation unique to every play. Stafford effectively cycled through the designed progression, getting his passes to the 3 or 4 receivers who get open as the play clock ticks. The Deep Ball needs time to develop. Geno looks intent on getting his passes out in 2 seconds, negating the deep pass. Just showing a Blitz will rattle him and lead to many of our troubles. I was most pleased Curhan and Forsyth held their own yesterday. Did not expect to see that. I suspect Detroit didn't either. (Hutchinson who?)
Also, an interestingly good day for the 2021 draft class. Tre Brown won us the game and Stone Forsythe didn't lose it.
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I disagree with you regarding Geno. He was good though not great. He excelled distributing the ball, keeping it secure, and evading pressure. The line didn't suck, but they played far from a perfect game. Every now and then someone was on Geno's face, and he took zero sacks until his last snap in regulation.
And even that sack has some excuses. Geno wanted the first down, but he also needed to burn 11s of clock. A draw play would have achieved the latter, but no chance of the former. So he scrambled trying to find something, and when he didn't, he kept scrambling to make sure the clock would go below 2 minutes. In the heat of the moment, you don't know how many seconds have passed, so he didn't throw the ball away (as he should), probably because he thought better to lose some yardage on a sack than give an extra timeout to the Lions. He ended up losing a lot of yardage and Dickson bailed him out, but even his worst play of the day had a context.
I learned that two really bad possessions can offset two turnovers. (Or maybe it’s the other way around.)
Myers’ first miss came after a very poorly thrown deep ball, a rush for no gain, and a throwaway. A promising drive, down the drain. But, hey, what if Jason had made the kick and the Lions went into their final possession (following “the least clutch play in Seahawks’ history”) down by six from the fifty? They already had touchdown drives of 75, 65, 75, and 75 yards. Who would have bet against them moving the ball fifty yards in 1:44? Myers’ miss may have been a blessing in disguise.
Lockett and Metcalf had fine games, but how about those TEs? Dissly, Fant, and Parkinson combined for 9/132. They each had a big play, too.
Seaside, why do think Myers’ should made the 56-yard try? This day and age it’s conceivable but not a gimme by any stretch.
I'm not worried about Geno. I thought he played well enough and the Hawks won in a difficult environment against a good team. It's only game two and this week was a vast improvement over Week 1.
Watch any QB tape and you'll see open receivers who don't get the ball all the time. We have no idea what the progression is supposed to be for Geno's reads so an open guy who doesn't get the ball isn't necessarily an indictment of Geno's play.
This week is in the books and it was a "W". Let's get ready for Carolina.
I love it when I'm wrong. I said before the game, with two backups at tackle, if we didn't run the ball effectively we had no chance to win. Turns out, not so much. Props to Stone and Jake, as they looked just fine thank you very much. The only time Geno got touched was his own damn fault for going all Russell Wilson on us. If you're QB doesn't get touched at all on 44 pass plays, that's damned fine.
We do need to get our timing sorted out for the run game. RB's are not getting much space to work with, and we just don't seem coordinated on the o-line. Watching shootouts with the QB throwing over 40 times is fun, sure. But when we're protecting a lead, we gotta be able to get a few first downs running the ball. Hopefully we see some improvements over the next couple of games.
Spoon is going to be just fine. Coming off an injury, first NFL game, I thought he looked ok, and made a couple of nice plays. He'll get better every game.
Geno - Doesn't feel like we're gonna see that Week2-8 form from last year. Feels far more like the Geno we expected to see. Upside, at least by taking the safe one read then check down he's protecting the ball. Downside, he really should have suffered 2 INT's and 1 strip sack, which would drastically change the result and his stat line. If this team genuinely wants to win a playoff game, Geno must start showing week to week improvement.
Devon looked nice, but i'm still hoping for a bit more from the DB unit. Browns INT was about as on-a-plate as you can get (seriously, that throw was two yards behind the receiver who was running the other way, and directly into Browns stomach), and I can't recall too many other cases of getting close to snagging the ball. Progress from Week 1 so lets hope it's just about gelling and finally being fully healthy.
D-Line still leaves me unconvinced. They did get some pressure in this time, and the run game was held in check. But does it feel equivalent to the outlay in terms of draft capital and cap space? Not yet. Big opportunity to stat pad next week against Carolina, and if they can't turn up there it's a major concern.
How i judge Meyers this week will only become clear in time. If he nails 75% of those 50+yard kicks this season, this gets marked off as unlucky and he has a good season. But 56yards, in a dome, when you want/get Justin Tucker equivalent money I rightly demand Justin Tucker equivalent play.
Final note on Charbs - good to see he got some more snaps. But i continue to feel through two weeks that Waldron isn't sure how to scheme up with so many options. So i find myself questioning if using that 2nd round pick on a RB was a good call or not. Early to make that judgement yes, but seeing JSN & Bobo getting so few looks, and just so many "ordinary" line-ups and plays for the number of weapons available... Is it that Waldron isn't good, or does he not trust Geno, or not trust the Rookies?
We got the win, yes that's good. But i remain far from convinced about this team. Especially watching how the Rams, 49ers and Cardinals have all started! This season isn't going to be a gimmie and we need a big comfortable statement performance vs the Panthers to really cement our status as playoff contenders.
Also nice to see the TEs contribute at several key times. 9 catches om 10 targets for 132 yards and I'm not sure how many first downs, but it felt like several. I think they also used a 3-TE set in OT, I assume in order to help present a credible threat of running. All in all, a nice element of the offense today.
Just rewatched the game (offense only). I did take an exact count of bad plays/decisions Geno made but my guess would be around 5. Which leads me to wonder, how many poor plays do average and elite QBs make per game? No one is perfect and 5 out of roughly 44 plays (11%) seems pretty good, no? The cool thing with Geno is that at least on the run vs pass decision he got better as the game went on. He messed up in the first half, but then in the second half after a ridiculous grounding call, he ran for 15 and then ran for the first (got called back from illegal formation). Then he delivered a strike on 3 and 10 to Lockett to overcome 2 penalties (awesome) and get the TD when down 4 in the 4th.
I didn't see any clock mistakes so I'm not sure there. And the one thing we know for sure about Geno, his superpower is that he is absurdly accurate. I don't think he missed a throw all day.
I would also put a somewhat simple play... like the blown up screen pass in OT that he successfully threw into the ground without it being close to a grounding penalty is an exceptional play and a winning one. How many times do you see QBs take a sack? Throw a pick? Or get intentional grounding that situation. There are many examples trhoughout the game of extremely good throws under pressure avoiding sacks and allowing the reciever to run after the catch (Dissly).
I've read and watched most of the reviews of this game, and I cannot think of a single instance of someone praising DK Metcalf for his game of 76 yards on 6 targets and 6 receptions. I thought it was his best game as a pro. He made difficult catches, some he wouldn't have caught in years past. He could easily have had two TD's to add to his stat line.
Who knew we were so deep at Tackle...turns out we have four starters. That is a pleasant surprise to me. As they say (well actually as "I" say), " offense depends upon, begins and ends upon the O-line!"
Overstated? Nahhh...championships are won in the trenches.
Seems to me Geno's comfort zone is better in Road Games, not at Home. Watching Stafford last week showed us what some QBs bring, as they find the calmness to read the situation unique to every play. Stafford effectively cycled through the designed progression, getting his passes to the 3 or 4 receivers who get open as the play clock ticks. The Deep Ball needs time to develop. Geno looks intent on getting his passes out in 2 seconds, negating the deep pass. Just showing a Blitz will rattle him and lead to many of our troubles. I was most pleased Curhan and Forsyth held their own yesterday. Did not expect to see that. I suspect Detroit didn't either. (Hutchinson who?)
Also, an interestingly good day for the 2021 draft class. Tre Brown won us the game and Stone Forsythe didn't lose it.
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I disagree with you regarding Geno. He was good though not great. He excelled distributing the ball, keeping it secure, and evading pressure. The line didn't suck, but they played far from a perfect game. Every now and then someone was on Geno's face, and he took zero sacks until his last snap in regulation.
And even that sack has some excuses. Geno wanted the first down, but he also needed to burn 11s of clock. A draw play would have achieved the latter, but no chance of the former. So he scrambled trying to find something, and when he didn't, he kept scrambling to make sure the clock would go below 2 minutes. In the heat of the moment, you don't know how many seconds have passed, so he didn't throw the ball away (as he should), probably because he thought better to lose some yardage on a sack than give an extra timeout to the Lions. He ended up losing a lot of yardage and Dickson bailed him out, but even his worst play of the day had a context.
Geno lost his mind on one play. Absolutely lost it. And it could have cost them the game.
But other than that, he played fine. The Hawks moved the ball well throughout the game.
Forsyth and Curhan played so much ch better than i anticipated. If I had game balls to give out, they would each get one.
And yes, Odd Year Myers is a thing. Glad it will be an even year for the Hawks Super Bowl season next year.
I learned that two really bad possessions can offset two turnovers. (Or maybe it’s the other way around.)
Myers’ first miss came after a very poorly thrown deep ball, a rush for no gain, and a throwaway. A promising drive, down the drain. But, hey, what if Jason had made the kick and the Lions went into their final possession (following “the least clutch play in Seahawks’ history”) down by six from the fifty? They already had touchdown drives of 75, 65, 75, and 75 yards. Who would have bet against them moving the ball fifty yards in 1:44? Myers’ miss may have been a blessing in disguise.
Lockett and Metcalf had fine games, but how about those TEs? Dissly, Fant, and Parkinson combined for 9/132. They each had a big play, too.
Seaside, why do think Myers’ should made the 56-yard try? This day and age it’s conceivable but not a gimme by any stretch.
I'm not worried about Geno. I thought he played well enough and the Hawks won in a difficult environment against a good team. It's only game two and this week was a vast improvement over Week 1.
Watch any QB tape and you'll see open receivers who don't get the ball all the time. We have no idea what the progression is supposed to be for Geno's reads so an open guy who doesn't get the ball isn't necessarily an indictment of Geno's play.
This week is in the books and it was a "W". Let's get ready for Carolina.
I love it when I'm wrong. I said before the game, with two backups at tackle, if we didn't run the ball effectively we had no chance to win. Turns out, not so much. Props to Stone and Jake, as they looked just fine thank you very much. The only time Geno got touched was his own damn fault for going all Russell Wilson on us. If you're QB doesn't get touched at all on 44 pass plays, that's damned fine.
We do need to get our timing sorted out for the run game. RB's are not getting much space to work with, and we just don't seem coordinated on the o-line. Watching shootouts with the QB throwing over 40 times is fun, sure. But when we're protecting a lead, we gotta be able to get a few first downs running the ball. Hopefully we see some improvements over the next couple of games.
Spoon is going to be just fine. Coming off an injury, first NFL game, I thought he looked ok, and made a couple of nice plays. He'll get better every game.
Geno - Doesn't feel like we're gonna see that Week2-8 form from last year. Feels far more like the Geno we expected to see. Upside, at least by taking the safe one read then check down he's protecting the ball. Downside, he really should have suffered 2 INT's and 1 strip sack, which would drastically change the result and his stat line. If this team genuinely wants to win a playoff game, Geno must start showing week to week improvement.
Devon looked nice, but i'm still hoping for a bit more from the DB unit. Browns INT was about as on-a-plate as you can get (seriously, that throw was two yards behind the receiver who was running the other way, and directly into Browns stomach), and I can't recall too many other cases of getting close to snagging the ball. Progress from Week 1 so lets hope it's just about gelling and finally being fully healthy.
D-Line still leaves me unconvinced. They did get some pressure in this time, and the run game was held in check. But does it feel equivalent to the outlay in terms of draft capital and cap space? Not yet. Big opportunity to stat pad next week against Carolina, and if they can't turn up there it's a major concern.
How i judge Meyers this week will only become clear in time. If he nails 75% of those 50+yard kicks this season, this gets marked off as unlucky and he has a good season. But 56yards, in a dome, when you want/get Justin Tucker equivalent money I rightly demand Justin Tucker equivalent play.
Final note on Charbs - good to see he got some more snaps. But i continue to feel through two weeks that Waldron isn't sure how to scheme up with so many options. So i find myself questioning if using that 2nd round pick on a RB was a good call or not. Early to make that judgement yes, but seeing JSN & Bobo getting so few looks, and just so many "ordinary" line-ups and plays for the number of weapons available... Is it that Waldron isn't good, or does he not trust Geno, or not trust the Rookies?
We got the win, yes that's good. But i remain far from convinced about this team. Especially watching how the Rams, 49ers and Cardinals have all started! This season isn't going to be a gimmie and we need a big comfortable statement performance vs the Panthers to really cement our status as playoff contenders.
Most important play of the day: winning the toss prior to overtime play.
I would like to see whether Geno just isn't throwing to Jaxon. I have a feeling he's open far more than he receives the ball. Same with Bobo.
Also re. punting out of end zone...part of me expected Dickson to pull off something like this:
https://youtube.com/shorts/swyPqmvzOkk?si=QoJyFOkTDVKl75se
It's coming...just wait. 😉
As much as I'm happy about the win, I'm at least equally happy that they were *fun* to watch again today! 😁
Also nice to see the TEs contribute at several key times. 9 catches om 10 targets for 132 yards and I'm not sure how many first downs, but it felt like several. I think they also used a 3-TE set in OT, I assume in order to help present a credible threat of running. All in all, a nice element of the offense today.
I enjoyed this game even though it stressed the hell out of me too. I agree KA/Joe that this should have probably been a blowout. Just happy we won.
A 56-yd FG is a crap shoot, I’m not going to hold missing one against any place kicker.
Just rewatched the game (offense only). I did take an exact count of bad plays/decisions Geno made but my guess would be around 5. Which leads me to wonder, how many poor plays do average and elite QBs make per game? No one is perfect and 5 out of roughly 44 plays (11%) seems pretty good, no? The cool thing with Geno is that at least on the run vs pass decision he got better as the game went on. He messed up in the first half, but then in the second half after a ridiculous grounding call, he ran for 15 and then ran for the first (got called back from illegal formation). Then he delivered a strike on 3 and 10 to Lockett to overcome 2 penalties (awesome) and get the TD when down 4 in the 4th.
I didn't see any clock mistakes so I'm not sure there. And the one thing we know for sure about Geno, his superpower is that he is absurdly accurate. I don't think he missed a throw all day.
I would also put a somewhat simple play... like the blown up screen pass in OT that he successfully threw into the ground without it being close to a grounding penalty is an exceptional play and a winning one. How many times do you see QBs take a sack? Throw a pick? Or get intentional grounding that situation. There are many examples trhoughout the game of extremely good throws under pressure avoiding sacks and allowing the reciever to run after the catch (Dissly).