Love these quizzes. Got this one and a couple of others. I liked Seneca but liked Kitna much more. Now those guys, and you’ve mentioned a couple before, back in early 90’s I hated we wasted so much capital on them. And if only we had Warren Moon before!!!
I noted that Pete replaced Canales as QB Coach with a guy known as absolutely "the best" QB Coach (name escapes me). Study showed many examples of guys he turned around, thus earning such respect. Also of note is Geno saying, last year, his ambition is to become a QB Coach. It has stuck with me ever since as a subtle nuance which will drive decisions in the years ahead. I expect we shall see Geno hired onto our coaching staff when the proving is over and done with. He's already won, especially if Pete gave him any hint that this is possible.
I will be quite surprised if Geno isn't at least as good as he was last year. He's not someone that I think is wired to get outside himself, which is often the reason success spirals to failure. I think he'll be just fine this year, and perhaps even better than last year in some respects. Certainly has a better supporting cast, or should have. Hopefully the C and RG spots hold up on the o-line. I'm not convinced of that just yet.
22 passing touchdowns+13 rushing touchdowns. I understand why it may have been interpreted that way. My statement attempted to be worded as it is, "scoring 35 touchdowns", because those offenses got at least 35 touchdowns through their QB position. I don't expect Geno to be able to rush for touchdowns, which is why I emphasized "passing" touchdowns for him. Just don't want anyone to think I wrote that because of poor research, I would never write that Jalen Hurts had 35 touchdown passes.
I liked the imbedded Athletic video season preview. A couple of nuggets from it:
1. Nate noticed Drew Lock "being the same old Drew Lock as he was in Denver" because he called a play wrong and the formation was flipped. He said you could here JSN (a rookie) say "i'm not supposed to be on this side". They flipped it and almost got a delay, but they got it off. That's something that I wouldn't have noticed, but the players and coaches sure do.
2. They wondered aloud whether, with all of the versatile DBs, we would play more aggressive man coverage to sort of support the front seven. We were one of the teams to play dime the most last year, and they think we could do it even more. (Not a surprise to this community).
Thanks for the article and the supporting videos from other places, too. It makes me like SSJ even more because it shows that he wants us to get all the details, regardless of the source. Very genuine of him. Brings a tune to mind, in fact:
Always If's- When the O-line plays better ( which it will) and when the RB's stay healthy(please) and the Blocking by the backs and TE's is smoothed out (should be) I believe Geno will be as Good as he allows himself to be! On another note, Jalen Carter looked GREAT versus the Raider's - He would be starting for us Right now if he was chosen !!!
Two things I think. The first is that this year is less about Geno and more about the development of the young core around him. Cross and Lucas need to continue to improve from average NFL tackles to good NFL tackles. Walker needs to learn when to take a 2 yard gain and live to play another down. I think those things will happen, but I do not think that those things alone will not be enough to keep the Seahawks offense from again slumping in the second half.
The Seahawks offense slumping in second half of the season was not something that started with Geno. It had been happening under Russ as well, and I don't think it was because Russ slumped in his play per se I think it was because the offense collectively struggled to beat cover 2 pressman variations.
To understand why this an issue I think it is necessary to understand the core identity of a Pete Carol offense. Over the years the Seahawks offense has been run first play action shot play offense - e.g. pound the body and then when they come down into the box take the top off. The one thing all of Pete's QBs (Palmer/Russ and Geno) have in common is they can throw a deep ball and throwing the ball deep, to create game altering plays is at the heart of what Pete wants to do. For the past five plus years this formula has stopped working in the second half of the season.
One obvious reason it stopped working is the body blows delivered by the running game lost their sting in the second half of the season due to of injuries. But if Pete believed the problem would be solved with another Marshawn Lynch, he would have drafted Robinson the closest thing to a modern Marshawn Lynch to come out in the last 15 years. Instead he drafted JSN and Charbonnet, and they must make a difference against the Cover 2 schemes that have bedeviled the Seahawks or Geno and Seahawks are likely to again stall again this year.
The most effective defense against Pete's deep shot offensive philosophy is Cover 2. Cover 2 has a wide variety of different coverages that the underneath 5/4 can run. At the being year , defenses are less likely to adjust underneath coverage scheme on the fly based on what they are reading because they are not sure what they are seeing and the risk of busted coverage is higher. All of which allowed the Geno to identify the coverage variation and from that the primary receiver and secondary depending on the matches and routes. But as the year progressed opposing defenses got more and more tape on what the Seahawks were running allowing them to adjust coverage on the fly and disguise coverages depending on what the Seahawks showed pre snap. These coverages cannot be consistently beaten with scheme or pre-snap reads. After the snap the Cover 2 beaters (primary receivers) are typically not the outside receivers, instead the primary receivers are the inside receivers (tight end, the running back or the slot receiver), depending on the rush configuration and the cover 2 variation. To be consistently effective after the snap an inside receivers has to be able to do what a good outside receiver can do - recognize what the coverage for their route is - man or zone, whether the coverage is inside or outside leverage, and then be able to beat man or zone coverage in manner that the quarterback can anticipate. All of this has to happen in the first five to ten yards of the route (between 1 and 1.5 seconds after the snap). If it does not then QB when the QB looks for the primary receiver after reading the defense the receiver is not open has to move from the primary to the next read and then the next read. All of which means the QB holds the ball longer and or forces the ball into coverage. That basically describes the second half of the Seahawks seasons as of late.
Schemes will get you so far against cover 2 but at some point your inside receivers have to win their routes on talent rather scheme if a team is going to consistently beat cover 2. Since Doug Baldwin retired and Jimmy Graham moved on, that has been very hard in Seattle because the Seahawks have had not real threat receiving on the inside who could consistently win inside routes.
Enter JSN and Charbonnet, collectively they need to be cover 2 killers 1A and 2B in the second half of the season that force teams to play single high with one on one matchups for Metcalf/Lockett. If things happen then I think Geno will be just fine and the Seahawks will have a top 10 and maybe even a top 5 offense.
Remember this offseason when Geno tweeted (X’d?) something along the lines of “I could be an Offensive Coordinator in this league, today”?
He tweeted that the night before Bucs announced Canales as new OC. Surely Geno found out before the announcement. I don’t think Geno was overly impressed with Canales as a QB coach...
As far as what to call a Tweet now, I’m gonna go with terms I saw on Ars Technica. Since the site is now X, a user doesn’t tweet, they Xcrete. You don’t read a tweet, you read an Xcretion.
I see Geno going to work in his bibs, thermos with coffee and lunch pail. He is singing “It’s a Blue Collar Day”! I don’t know if there is such a song but their should be. May the 12s be with you and Go Seahawks!
The challenge for Geno is to just keep focused on being the best he can be and to keep the noise of "do this and you'll be great" out. Keep trying to go 1-0 every week, take care of the football, run the offense the way it is designed, and he will be successful. He has to find a way to Keep it Loose and Keep it Tight at the same time. (I love this track by Amos Lee, who is kind of the musical equivalent to Geno in some ways.)
Love these quizzes. Got this one and a couple of others. I liked Seneca but liked Kitna much more. Now those guys, and you’ve mentioned a couple before, back in early 90’s I hated we wasted so much capital on them. And if only we had Warren Moon before!!!
I noted that Pete replaced Canales as QB Coach with a guy known as absolutely "the best" QB Coach (name escapes me). Study showed many examples of guys he turned around, thus earning such respect. Also of note is Geno saying, last year, his ambition is to become a QB Coach. It has stuck with me ever since as a subtle nuance which will drive decisions in the years ahead. I expect we shall see Geno hired onto our coaching staff when the proving is over and done with. He's already won, especially if Pete gave him any hint that this is possible.
Greg Olson. You're probably not referring to my study, but did do a background story on him sometime in February or so.
I will go back and find it if it's archived on your site. I found you after the dead-on read on our 5 pick.
That’s great to hear!
https://www.seasidejoe.com/p/seahawks-will-levis-draft-greg-olson-kentucky
I will be quite surprised if Geno isn't at least as good as he was last year. He's not someone that I think is wired to get outside himself, which is often the reason success spirals to failure. I think he'll be just fine this year, and perhaps even better than last year in some respects. Certainly has a better supporting cast, or should have. Hopefully the C and RG spots hold up on the o-line. I'm not convinced of that just yet.
Except that Jalen Hurts did not throw 35 touchdowns, another fine article,
22 passing touchdowns+13 rushing touchdowns. I understand why it may have been interpreted that way. My statement attempted to be worded as it is, "scoring 35 touchdowns", because those offenses got at least 35 touchdowns through their QB position. I don't expect Geno to be able to rush for touchdowns, which is why I emphasized "passing" touchdowns for him. Just don't want anyone to think I wrote that because of poor research, I would never write that Jalen Hurts had 35 touchdown passes.
I misunderstood you. My bad.
I liked the imbedded Athletic video season preview. A couple of nuggets from it:
1. Nate noticed Drew Lock "being the same old Drew Lock as he was in Denver" because he called a play wrong and the formation was flipped. He said you could here JSN (a rookie) say "i'm not supposed to be on this side". They flipped it and almost got a delay, but they got it off. That's something that I wouldn't have noticed, but the players and coaches sure do.
2. They wondered aloud whether, with all of the versatile DBs, we would play more aggressive man coverage to sort of support the front seven. We were one of the teams to play dime the most last year, and they think we could do it even more. (Not a surprise to this community).
Thanks for the article and the supporting videos from other places, too. It makes me like SSJ even more because it shows that he wants us to get all the details, regardless of the source. Very genuine of him. Brings a tune to mind, in fact:
https://youtu.be/vqkeOzBNNcA
I couldn't resist channeling my inner Doug, too. Was feeling left out.
Sorry for the typo... *could HEAR*
When I listened to this it took me back to back to the Budweiser frogs. I was so happy there were lyrics. 👍🏻😊
Always If's- When the O-line plays better ( which it will) and when the RB's stay healthy(please) and the Blocking by the backs and TE's is smoothed out (should be) I believe Geno will be as Good as he allows himself to be! On another note, Jalen Carter looked GREAT versus the Raider's - He would be starting for us Right now if he was chosen !!!
Deep analysis Charlie!
Two things I think. The first is that this year is less about Geno and more about the development of the young core around him. Cross and Lucas need to continue to improve from average NFL tackles to good NFL tackles. Walker needs to learn when to take a 2 yard gain and live to play another down. I think those things will happen, but I do not think that those things alone will not be enough to keep the Seahawks offense from again slumping in the second half.
The Seahawks offense slumping in second half of the season was not something that started with Geno. It had been happening under Russ as well, and I don't think it was because Russ slumped in his play per se I think it was because the offense collectively struggled to beat cover 2 pressman variations.
To understand why this an issue I think it is necessary to understand the core identity of a Pete Carol offense. Over the years the Seahawks offense has been run first play action shot play offense - e.g. pound the body and then when they come down into the box take the top off. The one thing all of Pete's QBs (Palmer/Russ and Geno) have in common is they can throw a deep ball and throwing the ball deep, to create game altering plays is at the heart of what Pete wants to do. For the past five plus years this formula has stopped working in the second half of the season.
One obvious reason it stopped working is the body blows delivered by the running game lost their sting in the second half of the season due to of injuries. But if Pete believed the problem would be solved with another Marshawn Lynch, he would have drafted Robinson the closest thing to a modern Marshawn Lynch to come out in the last 15 years. Instead he drafted JSN and Charbonnet, and they must make a difference against the Cover 2 schemes that have bedeviled the Seahawks or Geno and Seahawks are likely to again stall again this year.
The most effective defense against Pete's deep shot offensive philosophy is Cover 2. Cover 2 has a wide variety of different coverages that the underneath 5/4 can run. At the being year , defenses are less likely to adjust underneath coverage scheme on the fly based on what they are reading because they are not sure what they are seeing and the risk of busted coverage is higher. All of which allowed the Geno to identify the coverage variation and from that the primary receiver and secondary depending on the matches and routes. But as the year progressed opposing defenses got more and more tape on what the Seahawks were running allowing them to adjust coverage on the fly and disguise coverages depending on what the Seahawks showed pre snap. These coverages cannot be consistently beaten with scheme or pre-snap reads. After the snap the Cover 2 beaters (primary receivers) are typically not the outside receivers, instead the primary receivers are the inside receivers (tight end, the running back or the slot receiver), depending on the rush configuration and the cover 2 variation. To be consistently effective after the snap an inside receivers has to be able to do what a good outside receiver can do - recognize what the coverage for their route is - man or zone, whether the coverage is inside or outside leverage, and then be able to beat man or zone coverage in manner that the quarterback can anticipate. All of this has to happen in the first five to ten yards of the route (between 1 and 1.5 seconds after the snap). If it does not then QB when the QB looks for the primary receiver after reading the defense the receiver is not open has to move from the primary to the next read and then the next read. All of which means the QB holds the ball longer and or forces the ball into coverage. That basically describes the second half of the Seahawks seasons as of late.
Schemes will get you so far against cover 2 but at some point your inside receivers have to win their routes on talent rather scheme if a team is going to consistently beat cover 2. Since Doug Baldwin retired and Jimmy Graham moved on, that has been very hard in Seattle because the Seahawks have had not real threat receiving on the inside who could consistently win inside routes.
Enter JSN and Charbonnet, collectively they need to be cover 2 killers 1A and 2B in the second half of the season that force teams to play single high with one on one matchups for Metcalf/Lockett. If things happen then I think Geno will be just fine and the Seahawks will have a top 10 and maybe even a top 5 offense.
Thank you for the explanation. 👍🏻
Remember this offseason when Geno tweeted (X’d?) something along the lines of “I could be an Offensive Coordinator in this league, today”?
He tweeted that the night before Bucs announced Canales as new OC. Surely Geno found out before the announcement. I don’t think Geno was overly impressed with Canales as a QB coach...
As far as what to call a Tweet now, I’m gonna go with terms I saw on Ars Technica. Since the site is now X, a user doesn’t tweet, they Xcrete. You don’t read a tweet, you read an Xcretion.
In my opinion it fits with the new owner.
Thanks Inner Doug. Forgot about that song. You have some powerful Zen there Grasshopper.
I see Geno going to work in his bibs, thermos with coffee and lunch pail. He is singing “It’s a Blue Collar Day”! I don’t know if there is such a song but their should be. May the 12s be with you and Go Seahawks!
Not exactly those words, but this pretty much means the same thing:
https://youtu.be/erSJGrpfnOI
Thanks Dale. Everybody is channeling their inner Doug today.
Channeling my inner Doug, I bring you https://youtu.be/xArmqniFiJ8
I had that song in my head before I finished reading his statement. On the money, Rusty.
Guys, guys... how can we forget that Geno is a Working Class Hero?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D77dbv-xNfE
The challenge for Geno is to just keep focused on being the best he can be and to keep the noise of "do this and you'll be great" out. Keep trying to go 1-0 every week, take care of the football, run the offense the way it is designed, and he will be successful. He has to find a way to Keep it Loose and Keep it Tight at the same time. (I love this track by Amos Lee, who is kind of the musical equivalent to Geno in some ways.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xt8dVLPLFc
I've always wondered if and how not getting Superbowl MVP in our one win affected Wilson, if at all.
The Seahawks may have the strangest Super Bowl MVP of all time.
Should’ve been Kam.