Run two or three Barnyard runs. Once we got another yard or two we can kneel it down. Anything else was coaching malpractice. So this one is on MM. In my opinion, that's all there is. The RB's coach should be on notice: Teach these guys to protect the ball or start looking for another job.
I think this was truly a team loss. Special teams were good, but not special when they were needed late. The defense played well, but they tired before the 49ers' offense did. The offense did a couple of things well, at times, but made far to many mistakes. The coaches made some good calls, and made some bad calls, too. No one gets a game ball in a loss.
It is of course a cliché that winning two Super Bowls in a row is a very steep climb. And this climb is far from over at this point in time. While the players hold an ultimate responsibility for the outcome of a game, I don't think I'm alone in wanting to get as thorough an accounting as possible from the principal coaches (or maybe just from MM) as to the costly decisions they made, in the very short time that there is before preparations for Thursday's game must begin. I have some faith that we will receive a fair degree of accountability.
Sloppy football, beating ourselves. You’re not going to be good teams when you commit 4 turnovers. No excuse for Fumbling in the end zone, it cost us the game.
Fun game! Lots of twists and turns. I hope that no matter how disappointed anyone is, they had a really fun time watching two great football teams trade blows.
Not that it affects today’s outcome, but I’ve always disliked the sideline plane determining where the ball is down. The point where the ball or body hit the ground is better defined. That said, it’s not very practical to change it…
Imagine going for a TD, but you go outside of the pylon and hit the ground a foot past the goal line. We can’t very well say that’s a TD. Also imagine a guy flying through the air, leaping with the ball out of bounds. The defender can’t hit him to stop progress, or it’s an out of bounds hit. So, we’re stuck with it.
So is it any part of the ball crossing the plane, or does the whole ball need to cross the plane?
With it being a game of inches, and the invisible planes of the sidelines determining some inches, you’d think they’d have cameras lined up to find the precise video frame where the ball is down.
I actually think Kupp was short, but it would be more fulfilling to be certain.
The line of gain is like the goal line; any portion of the ball on or over the line within the field of play is acceptable.
More and more stadiums are getting those all-angle views, and the league accepts them when they are available. But, every camera has to be synchronized to use them.
So from this, I assume that when a ball goes out of bounds, the spot is determined by any part of the ball that made the most forward progress, up until the moment that the entire ball is out of bounds.
Here’s an odd one… If I’m not touched by a defender, I believe that I can sweep the ball through the air, out of bounds (or touch my knee in bounds), and the ball is still in play. But if I’m touched and the ball sweeps through the side plane, it’s down, same as if my knee hit the turf.
Such a complicated game. I need to read through the rule book someday.
One other comment I’d like to add. We started last season 3 wins 2 losses, and if you look at the comments being made about the Seahawks after that Bucs loss (also by 3 points late in the 4th quarter) many people felt this team was not ready to be exceptional. It’s worth looking back at that Bucs loss. Very few people felt this hawks team was the best in the NFL. We went on to win 14 out of the next 15 games including the Super Bowl. It took a while to get in sync with a new offense. I see many reasons to believe this team has what it takes to get back to that level and defend their championship.
I agree, Danno, but the the road looks a little tougher this year. Injuries at runningback, injuries on the O-Line and injuries in the secondary are taking their toll. And, after an exceptionally physical game on multiple levels, the Hawks have to play low-oxygen ball in four days. Go Hawks!
Hard to put lipstick on this one. Horrible offensive execution in general, and a terrible play call backed up at the end of the half. Sam needs to stop early interceptions on bad throws to covered receivers. Defense needs to hold teams after a turnover to field goals, like SF's defense did, not touchdowns. Defense consistently giving up yards in 4th quarter when stops are needed....disturbing trends all around.
On the last play, with Kupp, what's the rule? Does the ball have to cross the line to gain while still within the field of play, that is, not across an imaginary boundary that extends straight up from the sideline? Or can it be outside that boundary when it crosses the line to gain, so long as the ball carrier's feet are not on the ground and out of bounds? Because Kupp's last contact with the ground with his feet was in bounds, and the ball crossed the line to gain when by then his body was also in the air and past the boundary....
<Does the ball have to cross the line to gain while still within the field of play, that is, not across an imaginary boundary that extends straight up from the sideline?> Yes.
It may just be from a Hawk fans eye, but our O-line seemed to be more overwhelmed every play as the game went on. Sam made some good escapes from pressure, but also made the bad picks, and should have thrown it away more instead of taking sacks.
The offense is way to one dimensional. If JSN is hurt, the season is done.
The D is great, but can only do so much to make up for mistakes.
I thought they said our defensive backfield was back. That was ugly. Mike Evans killed us. Maybe Deebo would have done more if he hadn't been hurt. Lots of second guessing.
Tough loss. Unless they find a good RB soon, JS will rue the day he paid Sheheed the big money instead of Walker! You can't run a wide scheme with slo w backs!
Guys. I’m gutted after this one. Even after all those turnovers, I knew we had a chance with the way the D was playing. It’s just tough to win with 4 turnovers and almost a 5th… man they were so close to pulling that off though. Not the team you want to lose to for many reasons.
On the Arroyo interception, did he run the wrong route or did Darnold lame duck it? It seems like everyone one of Darnold’s INT’s have come on under throwing the receiver.
What I have noticed is some guys are given some benefit and are kept out there:
-Arroyo stayed on the field despite they route/INT
-Holani received more carries after each of his fumbles
Sam has to shoulder the blame on this one. Turnovers are Darnolds albatross. The last play of the first half killed my beloved team. Lots of season to go. The Seahawks will still make the playoffs and are still a force. This is the first game of a tough stretch. Let's see how our 'Hawks respond on Thursday against our old nemesis, the Broncos.
Run two or three Barnyard runs. Once we got another yard or two we can kneel it down. Anything else was coaching malpractice. So this one is on MM. In my opinion, that's all there is. The RB's coach should be on notice: Teach these guys to protect the ball or start looking for another job.
I think this was truly a team loss. Special teams were good, but not special when they were needed late. The defense played well, but they tired before the 49ers' offense did. The offense did a couple of things well, at times, but made far to many mistakes. The coaches made some good calls, and made some bad calls, too. No one gets a game ball in a loss.
It is of course a cliché that winning two Super Bowls in a row is a very steep climb. And this climb is far from over at this point in time. While the players hold an ultimate responsibility for the outcome of a game, I don't think I'm alone in wanting to get as thorough an accounting as possible from the principal coaches (or maybe just from MM) as to the costly decisions they made, in the very short time that there is before preparations for Thursday's game must begin. I have some faith that we will receive a fair degree of accountability.
Sloppy football, beating ourselves. You’re not going to be good teams when you commit 4 turnovers. No excuse for Fumbling in the end zone, it cost us the game.
Fun game! Lots of twists and turns. I hope that no matter how disappointed anyone is, they had a really fun time watching two great football teams trade blows.
I do not enjoy watching the team I am cheering for beat themselves.
Hated watching the Seahawks play terrible.
They didn’t play terribly though! They almost won! The defense was incredible!
Our offense gifted the opponent 21 points. The D was solid. The offense was offensive.
Not that it affects today’s outcome, but I’ve always disliked the sideline plane determining where the ball is down. The point where the ball or body hit the ground is better defined. That said, it’s not very practical to change it…
Imagine going for a TD, but you go outside of the pylon and hit the ground a foot past the goal line. We can’t very well say that’s a TD. Also imagine a guy flying through the air, leaping with the ball out of bounds. The defender can’t hit him to stop progress, or it’s an out of bounds hit. So, we’re stuck with it.
So is it any part of the ball crossing the plane, or does the whole ball need to cross the plane?
With it being a game of inches, and the invisible planes of the sidelines determining some inches, you’d think they’d have cameras lined up to find the precise video frame where the ball is down.
I actually think Kupp was short, but it would be more fulfilling to be certain.
The line of gain is like the goal line; any portion of the ball on or over the line within the field of play is acceptable.
More and more stadiums are getting those all-angle views, and the league accepts them when they are available. But, every camera has to be synchronized to use them.
So from this, I assume that when a ball goes out of bounds, the spot is determined by any part of the ball that made the most forward progress, up until the moment that the entire ball is out of bounds.
Here’s an odd one… If I’m not touched by a defender, I believe that I can sweep the ball through the air, out of bounds (or touch my knee in bounds), and the ball is still in play. But if I’m touched and the ball sweeps through the side plane, it’s down, same as if my knee hit the turf.
Such a complicated game. I need to read through the rule book someday.
One other comment I’d like to add. We started last season 3 wins 2 losses, and if you look at the comments being made about the Seahawks after that Bucs loss (also by 3 points late in the 4th quarter) many people felt this team was not ready to be exceptional. It’s worth looking back at that Bucs loss. Very few people felt this hawks team was the best in the NFL. We went on to win 14 out of the next 15 games including the Super Bowl. It took a while to get in sync with a new offense. I see many reasons to believe this team has what it takes to get back to that level and defend their championship.
I agree, Danno, but the the road looks a little tougher this year. Injuries at runningback, injuries on the O-Line and injuries in the secondary are taking their toll. And, after an exceptionally physical game on multiple levels, the Hawks have to play low-oxygen ball in four days. Go Hawks!
Hard to put lipstick on this one. Horrible offensive execution in general, and a terrible play call backed up at the end of the half. Sam needs to stop early interceptions on bad throws to covered receivers. Defense needs to hold teams after a turnover to field goals, like SF's defense did, not touchdowns. Defense consistently giving up yards in 4th quarter when stops are needed....disturbing trends all around.
On the last play, with Kupp, what's the rule? Does the ball have to cross the line to gain while still within the field of play, that is, not across an imaginary boundary that extends straight up from the sideline? Or can it be outside that boundary when it crosses the line to gain, so long as the ball carrier's feet are not on the ground and out of bounds? Because Kupp's last contact with the ground with his feet was in bounds, and the ball crossed the line to gain when by then his body was also in the air and past the boundary....
<Does the ball have to cross the line to gain while still within the field of play, that is, not across an imaginary boundary that extends straight up from the sideline?> Yes.
Ok, then he didn't make it....
It may just be from a Hawk fans eye, but our O-line seemed to be more overwhelmed every play as the game went on. Sam made some good escapes from pressure, but also made the bad picks, and should have thrown it away more instead of taking sacks.
The offense is way to one dimensional. If JSN is hurt, the season is done.
The D is great, but can only do so much to make up for mistakes.
Good luck on Thursday guys! Go Hawks
I thought they said our defensive backfield was back. That was ugly. Mike Evans killed us. Maybe Deebo would have done more if he hadn't been hurt. Lots of second guessing.
Tough loss. Unless they find a good RB soon, JS will rue the day he paid Sheheed the big money instead of Walker! You can't run a wide scheme with slo w backs!
Guys. I’m gutted after this one. Even after all those turnovers, I knew we had a chance with the way the D was playing. It’s just tough to win with 4 turnovers and almost a 5th… man they were so close to pulling that off though. Not the team you want to lose to for many reasons.
On the Arroyo interception, did he run the wrong route or did Darnold lame duck it? It seems like everyone one of Darnold’s INT’s have come on under throwing the receiver.
What I have noticed is some guys are given some benefit and are kept out there:
-Arroyo stayed on the field despite they route/INT
-Holani received more carries after each of his fumbles
On pace for 17 rb fumbles this year. Last team to have 17 fumbles from any position was in 2014. This is brutal.
Sam has to shoulder the blame on this one. Turnovers are Darnolds albatross. The last play of the first half killed my beloved team. Lots of season to go. The Seahawks will still make the playoffs and are still a force. This is the first game of a tough stretch. Let's see how our 'Hawks respond on Thursday against our old nemesis, the Broncos.
If the roles were reversed, they probably would’ve called it a first down and I would have agreed with it.
I thought that they reviewed it too quickly. I’m surprised they didn’t have the overhead came right there too.