Were obviously keeping JSN and Kupp, but I'm curious to see who in the SSJ community likes which receivers...can we do a vote em off the island survivor style competition?
Second question if you find it of any interest: do you think flag football has a chance of sticking in the Olympics? And who on our team would you send to play the games if they do indeed have each team send a player? My guess is Riq, now that Dee Eskridge is gone; since both are pretty much flag football players anyway. And I would argue that the entire Dolphins roster would be candidates since they're basically a flag football team in their play style and roster construction. But if these games are actually compelling, I would have more interest in the Olympic games than I have been since the Miracle on Ice in 1980. And I can't be alone in that. Football might be a uniquely American/Canadian sport but that's a lot of eyeballs and dollars.
How do you see the offensive roster construction shaping up per position? Particularly on offense, the 25-27ish players look tough to figure out and some guys we know and like are sure to be cuts. We drafted 9 players on offense. We kinda have to keep 3 quarterbacks now. 3 running backs seems like the minimum based on injuries at that position. 9 O linemen are standard. We usually keep 6 WR, and we drafted 2. It feels like there won't be room but for one of Bobo, Young or Ricky White. We drafted a fullback, who I feel sure will make the 53. Kubiak runs a ton of 2 TE sets, so I don't see us trimming there unless someone wants to trade for Fant. And a lot of those guys are special teams cotributors, which will factor in.
I haven't even started looking at defense, so that might be a similar situation. But the numbers we have on the offensive side of the ball seem a little bloated after the draft.
Ok I've been totally out of the Hawks loop for the last three weeks - on a very incredible holiday.
To segue, I've been exploring Tokyo's vast array of second hand stores. There's a good selection of RW3 jerseys. But I've found Lynch, Metcalf, Lockett, Baldwin. I've found more than one Hasslebeck jersey! It's been fun to see.
However, Hawks pale in comparison to Giants, Ravens, Packers, Pats, Broncos and Steelers kit out here. But in terms of the NFC West we stand a clear #1 in Tokyo's 2nd hand market, and we're up there in NFC overall.
To bring this to some relevant point beyond flexing about my travels - Why do Seasiders think the Hawks have such a broad international appeal compared to other teams? Especially given the relative lack of long term historical success and megastars?
(I loved seeing multiple Mariners jerseys out here too, there is still love for Griffey and Ichiro despite the Ohtani domination)
If the Seahawks defense were top five in 2nd half of 2024 and then, with same personnel, build upon their base to be come dominant in 2025, especially with newly required talent, they could lead the league statistically in many categories. Should this be the case, then the offense doesn't need to improve much for the team to win 12 or 13 games. Could the offense improve to being average this season, compared to the rest of the league, to help win 14 or 15 games?
In a dream world we are nearing the trade deadline and looking to win the division. With our cap and future picks who do you trade for? (Obviously depends on how everyone is playing, injuries etc.) but make up a scenario (or more than one)…. A dominate pass rusher, an electric WR, a stout o-lineman…etc
Kenneth, much of the media keeps referring to Emmanwori as a Safety and indicate that he will be competing with Coby Bryant to start. I don't know where they get this, as I clearly heard Mike say that Emmanwori would begin at the Big Nickel, which means Spoon moves to Cornerback. The standard D alignment last year was 5 DBs with Spoon starting at Nickel. What are you hearing from the formations at OTAs?
Here's a question -- how many players on the current roster will be on the team when we next return to the Super Bowl?
I realize this question is perhaps just another way of asking how confident we are that we're headed to the SB any time soon. But I sort of like asking it this way because it highlights that so many of this off-season's roster moves -- which for obvious reasons have been spotlighted, discussed, debated, etc. -- might not ultimately mean much for our overall trajectory. Does Sam Darnold really matter in the grand scheme of things if he leaves in 1-2 years? Will we look back to DeMarcus Lawrence and Cooper Cupp sort of the way we think of (or perhaps forget) Patrick Ewing's season with the Sonics?
If the Hawks shock with world and win the SB this year, then obviously Darnold, Lawrence and Cupp will become much bigger characters in the overall story of the franchise. But Vegas has us at 1.6% odds of winning the SB this year and that sounds about right to me.
All of this makes me wonder what we hope to achieve with some of these aging vets (I realize Darnold is only 27, so I'm really talking more about Cupp, Valdez-Scantling, Lawrence and to some degree the re-signing of Leonard Williams). I fear we're caught in the classic trap of the teams in the middle of the NFL -- not good enough to win a SB, but still trying to maximize our current roster to be as competitive as possible.
It's easy to see how this happens. Almost all GMs and Head Coaches are incentivized to win now, and the idea of tanking is an anathema for most organizations. Realistic or not, most organizations and fan bases prefer to think of their team as growing, building, improving year over year.
The reality, however, is that this linear growth doesn't really happen for most teams. The much more common experience is that teams go up and down within the parameters of ~6-10 wins. With that in mind, it begs the question of whether there's something short of tanking that might have made more sense this year for what is almost certainly not a SB team. Would we be better off giving all of Lawrence's snaps to developing players? Would we have been better off going super young at WR via the draft? And of course the big one -- would we be better off going with a rookie QB?
I think the answer is yes, in part because it might help us form a true young core of players that can open our next SB window. I think the answer is also yes because I'd rather win 5 games than 10.
And tying this back to my original question, I think the answer is zero outside of (maybe) our recent 1st/2nd round draft picks. Are Lawrence and Cupp here in 3 years? Is a 33 year hold Leonard Williams still playing at this level? Do we honestly think Sam Darnold is more than just a placeholder?
With all that said, my biggest hope for the Hawks this year is that we have the patience to view this as a developmental year. Let's focus on the guys that at least have a shot of being on the roster if/when a true SB window opens. And yes, that includes Milroe.
after watching 'what is a blitz' videos linked in a recent SSJ, I got that an actual pressure is a 5-man rush and that it's not a blitz until you get to 6-man rush.
But when talking about o-linemen, we talk about them giving up sacks and pressures. This sounds like a different meaning of the word 'pressure'.
That's because SA ran behind Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson, 2 HOFs.
He also didn't hit the holes like Marshawn and he ran out of bounds instead of trying to crush CBs. The Hawks have had a dozen better backs than him over the years.
How about medium-deep dives on the new coaches in the building... (position coaches, strength coaches, etc)
Do we have any coaches responsible for ancillary areas, like time management, situational probabilities, or even off-field sports psychologiests, and if so, who are they and what is the background? How is that different from other teams? Same for assistant GM or interns helping JS.
Kenneth Walker vs charbonet, what happens this year? Walker still doesn't seem like a downhill runner, he's gotten better at it but it seems like that's still an area charb has him beat
I have a question about the salaries of coaches. Is there a salary cap that limits the amount of money teams can pay the full of array of coaches? It seems there could be a competitive advantage to those teams that have a full complement of staff who can "coach up" players versus teams who are too cheap to pay not only a decent salary to the head coach but perhaps may operate at a disadvantage by paying poorly and carrying fewer assistant coaches. Has there been data of recent top teams compared to bottom of the barrel teams when it comes to spending on coaching? Thanks.
No there isn’t a cap per se for coaches. But, they are employees. You want a team to be “profitable” to have money when money is needed. You could pay every coach upteen millions but then you’re damaging the whole of the organization, unless those coaches get you that SB. It’s why certain guys that do well get paid or leave. Many want that big job. Others like our new OLine coach doing the same job as long as Coach Mac’s been alive, do it well and make a fabulous living doing what they love with limited angst when things don’t go well (ie media or fan hate).
I'm receiving the Seahawks.com (club's official site) summary of the all-time Top 50 Seahawks, "voted on by the 12s, Seahawks Legends, Seahawks front office staff, and Seattle media members".
The reveal started with the backfield, RB's and FB's. Alexander is ranked #37, behind Marshawn at #24, Warner at #28, and John L Williams at #32. Mack Strong is right behind him at #38 and Chris Warren is the last backfield player at #42.
Would say that even our home crowd is uncertain of his credentials, based on this ranking from Seattle's own website?
I didn't see that list, maybe it is just a list with their jersey #s? I was genuinely surprised in my last reply, but now I feel like I sounded snarky. Sorry
But makes sense, maybe they're just showing who the RB/FBs are in the Top 50, without yet revealing the rankings. Could be that. Too big a coincidence those numbers!
Were obviously keeping JSN and Kupp, but I'm curious to see who in the SSJ community likes which receivers...can we do a vote em off the island survivor style competition?
If you were interviewing MM, what questions would you ask?
Second question if you find it of any interest: do you think flag football has a chance of sticking in the Olympics? And who on our team would you send to play the games if they do indeed have each team send a player? My guess is Riq, now that Dee Eskridge is gone; since both are pretty much flag football players anyway. And I would argue that the entire Dolphins roster would be candidates since they're basically a flag football team in their play style and roster construction. But if these games are actually compelling, I would have more interest in the Olympic games than I have been since the Miracle on Ice in 1980. And I can't be alone in that. Football might be a uniquely American/Canadian sport but that's a lot of eyeballs and dollars.
How do you see the offensive roster construction shaping up per position? Particularly on offense, the 25-27ish players look tough to figure out and some guys we know and like are sure to be cuts. We drafted 9 players on offense. We kinda have to keep 3 quarterbacks now. 3 running backs seems like the minimum based on injuries at that position. 9 O linemen are standard. We usually keep 6 WR, and we drafted 2. It feels like there won't be room but for one of Bobo, Young or Ricky White. We drafted a fullback, who I feel sure will make the 53. Kubiak runs a ton of 2 TE sets, so I don't see us trimming there unless someone wants to trade for Fant. And a lot of those guys are special teams cotributors, which will factor in.
I haven't even started looking at defense, so that might be a similar situation. But the numbers we have on the offensive side of the ball seem a little bloated after the draft.
Ok I've been totally out of the Hawks loop for the last three weeks - on a very incredible holiday.
To segue, I've been exploring Tokyo's vast array of second hand stores. There's a good selection of RW3 jerseys. But I've found Lynch, Metcalf, Lockett, Baldwin. I've found more than one Hasslebeck jersey! It's been fun to see.
However, Hawks pale in comparison to Giants, Ravens, Packers, Pats, Broncos and Steelers kit out here. But in terms of the NFC West we stand a clear #1 in Tokyo's 2nd hand market, and we're up there in NFC overall.
To bring this to some relevant point beyond flexing about my travels - Why do Seasiders think the Hawks have such a broad international appeal compared to other teams? Especially given the relative lack of long term historical success and megastars?
(I loved seeing multiple Mariners jerseys out here too, there is still love for Griffey and Ichiro despite the Ohtani domination)
If the Seahawks defense were top five in 2nd half of 2024 and then, with same personnel, build upon their base to be come dominant in 2025, especially with newly required talent, they could lead the league statistically in many categories. Should this be the case, then the offense doesn't need to improve much for the team to win 12 or 13 games. Could the offense improve to being average this season, compared to the rest of the league, to help win 14 or 15 games?
In a dream world we are nearing the trade deadline and looking to win the division. With our cap and future picks who do you trade for? (Obviously depends on how everyone is playing, injuries etc.) but make up a scenario (or more than one)…. A dominate pass rusher, an electric WR, a stout o-lineman…etc
Kenneth, much of the media keeps referring to Emmanwori as a Safety and indicate that he will be competing with Coby Bryant to start. I don't know where they get this, as I clearly heard Mike say that Emmanwori would begin at the Big Nickel, which means Spoon moves to Cornerback. The standard D alignment last year was 5 DBs with Spoon starting at Nickel. What are you hearing from the formations at OTAs?
If they have 31 mil now and we trade or cut TE Fant to save over 8 mill, who should we add with the excess cap space? A LB, WR, OL, DL, or DB?
Here's a question -- how many players on the current roster will be on the team when we next return to the Super Bowl?
I realize this question is perhaps just another way of asking how confident we are that we're headed to the SB any time soon. But I sort of like asking it this way because it highlights that so many of this off-season's roster moves -- which for obvious reasons have been spotlighted, discussed, debated, etc. -- might not ultimately mean much for our overall trajectory. Does Sam Darnold really matter in the grand scheme of things if he leaves in 1-2 years? Will we look back to DeMarcus Lawrence and Cooper Cupp sort of the way we think of (or perhaps forget) Patrick Ewing's season with the Sonics?
If the Hawks shock with world and win the SB this year, then obviously Darnold, Lawrence and Cupp will become much bigger characters in the overall story of the franchise. But Vegas has us at 1.6% odds of winning the SB this year and that sounds about right to me.
All of this makes me wonder what we hope to achieve with some of these aging vets (I realize Darnold is only 27, so I'm really talking more about Cupp, Valdez-Scantling, Lawrence and to some degree the re-signing of Leonard Williams). I fear we're caught in the classic trap of the teams in the middle of the NFL -- not good enough to win a SB, but still trying to maximize our current roster to be as competitive as possible.
It's easy to see how this happens. Almost all GMs and Head Coaches are incentivized to win now, and the idea of tanking is an anathema for most organizations. Realistic or not, most organizations and fan bases prefer to think of their team as growing, building, improving year over year.
The reality, however, is that this linear growth doesn't really happen for most teams. The much more common experience is that teams go up and down within the parameters of ~6-10 wins. With that in mind, it begs the question of whether there's something short of tanking that might have made more sense this year for what is almost certainly not a SB team. Would we be better off giving all of Lawrence's snaps to developing players? Would we have been better off going super young at WR via the draft? And of course the big one -- would we be better off going with a rookie QB?
I think the answer is yes, in part because it might help us form a true young core of players that can open our next SB window. I think the answer is also yes because I'd rather win 5 games than 10.
And tying this back to my original question, I think the answer is zero outside of (maybe) our recent 1st/2nd round draft picks. Are Lawrence and Cupp here in 3 years? Is a 33 year hold Leonard Williams still playing at this level? Do we honestly think Sam Darnold is more than just a placeholder?
With all that said, my biggest hope for the Hawks this year is that we have the patience to view this as a developmental year. Let's focus on the guys that at least have a shot of being on the roster if/when a true SB window opens. And yes, that includes Milroe.
I do have a question, since you asked...
after watching 'what is a blitz' videos linked in a recent SSJ, I got that an actual pressure is a 5-man rush and that it's not a blitz until you get to 6-man rush.
But when talking about o-linemen, we talk about them giving up sacks and pressures. This sounds like a different meaning of the word 'pressure'.
Can you explain?
That's because SA ran behind Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson, 2 HOFs.
He also didn't hit the holes like Marshawn and he ran out of bounds instead of trying to crush CBs. The Hawks have had a dozen better backs than him over the years.
How about medium-deep dives on the new coaches in the building... (position coaches, strength coaches, etc)
Do we have any coaches responsible for ancillary areas, like time management, situational probabilities, or even off-field sports psychologiests, and if so, who are they and what is the background? How is that different from other teams? Same for assistant GM or interns helping JS.
What exactly is Leslie Frazier's role now?
Kenneth Walker vs charbonet, what happens this year? Walker still doesn't seem like a downhill runner, he's gotten better at it but it seems like that's still an area charb has him beat
I have a question about the salaries of coaches. Is there a salary cap that limits the amount of money teams can pay the full of array of coaches? It seems there could be a competitive advantage to those teams that have a full complement of staff who can "coach up" players versus teams who are too cheap to pay not only a decent salary to the head coach but perhaps may operate at a disadvantage by paying poorly and carrying fewer assistant coaches. Has there been data of recent top teams compared to bottom of the barrel teams when it comes to spending on coaching? Thanks.
No there isn’t a cap per se for coaches. But, they are employees. You want a team to be “profitable” to have money when money is needed. You could pay every coach upteen millions but then you’re damaging the whole of the organization, unless those coaches get you that SB. It’s why certain guys that do well get paid or leave. Many want that big job. Others like our new OLine coach doing the same job as long as Coach Mac’s been alive, do it well and make a fabulous living doing what they love with limited angst when things don’t go well (ie media or fan hate).
Shawn Alexander: is he a HOF player?
I'm receiving the Seahawks.com (club's official site) summary of the all-time Top 50 Seahawks, "voted on by the 12s, Seahawks Legends, Seahawks front office staff, and Seattle media members".
The reveal started with the backfield, RB's and FB's. Alexander is ranked #37, behind Marshawn at #24, Warner at #28, and John L Williams at #32. Mack Strong is right behind him at #38 and Chris Warren is the last backfield player at #42.
Would say that even our home crowd is uncertain of his credentials, based on this ranking from Seattle's own website?
Seattle fans don’t appreciate Shawn Alexander. Nothing new about that.
What a coincidence that those "rankings" are their jersey numbers!
I didn't see that list, maybe it is just a list with their jersey #s? I was genuinely surprised in my last reply, but now I feel like I sounded snarky. Sorry
No not snarky at all, no worries man.
But makes sense, maybe they're just showing who the RB/FBs are in the Top 50, without yet revealing the rankings. Could be that. Too big a coincidence those numbers!
OMG is that what that was?? hahahahahahaha that's too funny. Let me go back and check that, you must be right