Not to make this all about me, but the most important hidden stat is that the Seahawks are 4-0 when I'm in the United States at gametime, and 0-5 when I'm not. I promise to stop travelling, whether work or personal, for at least the next four weekends. You're all welcome. (And sorry in advance for having the Packers end the four game winning streak).
You quote a stat that says our Hawks had 95 penalty yards … but our eyeballs saw the OL turn JSN’s 45 yd gain into a 10 yd loss.
This feels like a rough season for “de facto penalty yards” - admittedly a tough metric when you expand to defensive holding calls on 3rd down stops and other slow developing impact situations! But NFL team huge staffs & endless analytics probably go there.
Somehow I still feel the Hawks are close - I hope their bye week emphases include cleanup on high margin plays in close games
Really great info- Some I pay attention to and a couple I usually don't, at least not much. Along with all these numbers (obviously turnovers ,at least to me is the biggest) if they had a semblance of any kind of consistent run game (O-line can't get any push, guards mostly) it is agonizing to not be able to get a yard or yard and a half when they need to. While that game was going on and the one time they were fourth and goal, my thought at that point of the game was take the points. It was early enough to not be worrying about absolutely feeling like you had to get the TD at that point. I believe that to have a consistent winning team, ALWAYS take the points until it's in the fourth quarter and other decisions to win need to be made. Just following that philosophy (if it was done) and the game played out similarly like it did they would have TWO more wins right now! They obviously need to find someone who is better at returning punts at least, and maybe because of what they don't have they might think of just downing the ball on kickoffs and take it at the 30 every time. At least doing that their field position would improve a bit, average wise at least. I don't remember his name but last year or the year before they had a backup running back that was doing really well at that and they let him go??? I often have wondered why that was done, since they struggle in that part of their game.
And I would like to add about our supposed woeful OLine (and yes we do need improvement there no doubt see SJ comment about penalties). But Brian N tweeted about Geno’s pressure number as double that of Goff. Well Geno has also thrown twice as many times as Goff. Yes percentage is higher but still flat qty numbers cannot be used for comparison. PFR shows Geno at 14th in pressure rate %. Geno at 14th in time to throw. He’s at average. Can line be better? Always. But attributing so much to the OLine is wrong. Team game. Team effort. Someone posted recently. We need a Robbie Tobeck OC again.
It’s hard to fathom why those end of half drives look so much better than the rest of the game. My theory is that Geno is throwing the ball where the play is supposed to go without thinking about it, running the quick offense. The rest of the time he is reading the D and the league has figured him out—he finds the open receiver when he is blitzed so don’t do that, play sticky coverage, rush 4, and wait for Geno to make a mistake.
Not to make this all about me, but the most important hidden stat is that the Seahawks are 4-0 when I'm in the United States at gametime, and 0-5 when I'm not. I promise to stop travelling, whether work or personal, for at least the next four weekends. You're all welcome. (And sorry in advance for having the Packers end the four game winning streak).
You quote a stat that says our Hawks had 95 penalty yards … but our eyeballs saw the OL turn JSN’s 45 yd gain into a 10 yd loss.
This feels like a rough season for “de facto penalty yards” - admittedly a tough metric when you expand to defensive holding calls on 3rd down stops and other slow developing impact situations! But NFL team huge staffs & endless analytics probably go there.
Somehow I still feel the Hawks are close - I hope their bye week emphases include cleanup on high margin plays in close games
Sorry, I wrote as well as any team in the NFC. I meant the NFc West.
Really great info- Some I pay attention to and a couple I usually don't, at least not much. Along with all these numbers (obviously turnovers ,at least to me is the biggest) if they had a semblance of any kind of consistent run game (O-line can't get any push, guards mostly) it is agonizing to not be able to get a yard or yard and a half when they need to. While that game was going on and the one time they were fourth and goal, my thought at that point of the game was take the points. It was early enough to not be worrying about absolutely feeling like you had to get the TD at that point. I believe that to have a consistent winning team, ALWAYS take the points until it's in the fourth quarter and other decisions to win need to be made. Just following that philosophy (if it was done) and the game played out similarly like it did they would have TWO more wins right now! They obviously need to find someone who is better at returning punts at least, and maybe because of what they don't have they might think of just downing the ball on kickoffs and take it at the 30 every time. At least doing that their field position would improve a bit, average wise at least. I don't remember his name but last year or the year before they had a backup running back that was doing really well at that and they let him go??? I often have wondered why that was done, since they struggle in that part of their game.
And I would like to add about our supposed woeful OLine (and yes we do need improvement there no doubt see SJ comment about penalties). But Brian N tweeted about Geno’s pressure number as double that of Goff. Well Geno has also thrown twice as many times as Goff. Yes percentage is higher but still flat qty numbers cannot be used for comparison. PFR shows Geno at 14th in pressure rate %. Geno at 14th in time to throw. He’s at average. Can line be better? Always. But attributing so much to the OLine is wrong. Team game. Team effort. Someone posted recently. We need a Robbie Tobeck OC again.
Geno Smith has 10 turnover worthy plays on the season… and has 10 interceptions.
I don’t know what the typical percentage is but that might be historically unlucky.
Part of the turnovers are due to JSN volleyball if the ball directly to the rams, so you could say lack of skill on WR part.
But I would expect this to normalize in the second half of the season for as long as Geno plays for,
Protect the football—it’s all about the ball. How many times have heard that, said that, and yet here we are.
Are we sure that Howell and Smith didn’t do a freaky Friday thing? Because Geno’s stat line THIS year looks an awfully lot like Howells’s LAST year.
Have they tried telling Geno that every possession is the last minute of the half (2 TDs) or regulation (JSN magic & TD)? 🤔
It’s hard to fathom why those end of half drives look so much better than the rest of the game. My theory is that Geno is throwing the ball where the play is supposed to go without thinking about it, running the quick offense. The rest of the time he is reading the D and the league has figured him out—he finds the open receiver when he is blitzed so don’t do that, play sticky coverage, rush 4, and wait for Geno to make a mistake.