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Ok i'll try not go on and on about Referees... buuuut.... i'm a Ref nerd and i get way too into referees and rules in sports, so i'm going to keep trying to help fans understand a bit more about that side and what is going on with penalties etc (not a qualified American Football ref, but former soccer Ref and currently training for Rugby Union - if i lived in the US i'd be out there Friday nights doing HS games for sure).

Spoon and "ticky-tacky" penalties. Firstly, I agree with A to Z, it's not an issue for Spoon. Yep that call against the Panthers is super soft. The Lions call is i think fair, but comes with playing football, every DB gives up one of those a year basically, nothing Spoon can or should do to avoid this kind of play and penalty. Play vs Nacua is a bad call, but i'm going to come back to this. Then suplex is a slam dunk call, and that's the one really bad penalty in my books, it's always going to be called, always going to get you fined, and there is no need to do it.

Does Spoon get penalised more for his style of play? No. Is Spoon being high in penalty count an issue no. I'm frankly shocked that getting 5 calls against you ranks you so high on the list. For all the regular calls of "ref ball" it's kind of shocking that 5 penalties makes you a relative league leader when you consider he player 883 snaps. Unfortunately the NFL rule book is a horror show with shockingly poor definitions and clarifications around player contact away from the line of scrimmage.

The Nacua example above (said i'm come back to it) is classic for this. Spoon has hands, plural up on Nacua through most of the route. We see this as normal, because it does happen on the majority of plays. This is hard to do without frame-by-framing this for you all to see, but go look at the clip and imagine what the sideline ref is seeing. He'll see flashes of hands on the receiver, through two other pairs of battling players, at the start of the route. But it's not clear, and at this stage it's the back line refs zone to monitor and call. But that flash is in the sideline refs mind. Does the sideline ref then get a clear view of the very minor contact between Diggs and Nacua? No. What he does see are Spoons hands on and off Nacua, so when he goes to ground the image presented to the ref is one of DPI.

Onto the rule book, where DPI is an entire section of almost 1000 words - it's a goddamn mess! Whilst there is a clear note that "If there is any question whether player contact is incidental, the ruling should be no interference." the rule book does nothing to ever define what incidental is. It's a purely subjective judgement. This is why i say look at where the Ref is and what they will see through the play. Repeated use of hands, close proximity, using the body to crowd the receiver, ultimately leading to the receiver going down. We know from multiple camera angles that is not the whole story, but the Refs don't have multiple angles (lets not get into whether DPI should be reviewable or challengable - that's a different discussion).

Anyway rambling onwards here for not much reason than i've just spent 20mins watching 8 seconds of tape over-and-over-and-over with my downloaded copy of the NFL Rulebook side-by-side. Christ i'm a Ref nerd.... Spoon, if he needs to change anything, is maybe try to keep his hands off receivers a little more through the play. But honestly he plays well and doesn't get grabby like some CB's do, he knows he's good enough. I want him to keep it up, just cut out the Suplex's. He plays like he is and Refs will quickly view him as a clean CB and reputation does matter.

Also, even if you're not a Ref nerd like me, please take some time to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiaaLQSXL9E ! I love videos like this which show the reality of Refereeing. It is a full time occupation, they work just as hard as anyone else in the NFL, are normal humans, and we need to be thankful for how good they really are.

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JIMMY JOHNSON's avatar

Spot on, Bro. Being a kid who also wind-milled his arms when he ran, I've paid extra attention to Spoon doing so. I felt it made me faster (Ha!) and certainly helped me with balance issues. Guys would rib the hell out of me, but like Spoon, I couldn't care less. Performance is all that matters. I suspect my eyes will be following him on every play our Defense renders, which will be a ton if MM has him in the Slot.

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