Will Pete make Waldron His-toria?
The Seahawks face the real possibility of sweeping changes if things don't improve fast: Seaside Joe 1728
Though firing a coordinator in the middle of a season would be shocking and is still highly unlikely, continuding to do the same thing every week and expecting different results would be insanity. The Seattle Seahawks are not only one of the worst offenses in the NFL, they will face teams ranked among the top-5 defenses over the next two weeks, then a home date against an Eagles team that allowed the second-fewest yards in the league last season.
If the Seahawks can struggle to score touchdowns against the L.A. Rams, what can be expected against the Cowboys, 49ers, and Eagles? And if Seattle does hit rock bottom in the next three weeks, who will survive to see the last three weeks?
I do not typically like it when fingers get pointed at an assistant coach because there’s just not enough transparent information available for us to know the true root cause of certain issues. For example, Tom Cable was that scapegoat that would often be used as a shield for assigning blame to players, coaches, and the front office. I’m not going to write a defense of Cable, but I will say that offensive line issues persisted with Mike Solari and now Andy Dickerson.
We can have the Shane Waldron discussion. I am just not convinced that changing offensive coordinators is going to solve the Seahawks offensive woes to a higher degree now than it did with the axes for Darrell Bevell or Brian Schottenheimer. Seattle’s offense is worse in 2023 than it has been since Bevell’s first year on the job in 2011, but if there is a coordinator out there who is going to turn Geno Smith into Tom Brady then maybe he shouldn’t be the offensive coordinator.
That guy would deserve to be the head coach.
Since the Seahawks fifth game of the season, Seattle has scored 10 offensive touchdowns in seven games. The only team to to score fewer touchdowns per game in that period of time is the New York Jets.
And the Jets, who have benched former interim starting quarterback Zach Wilson, seemingly have a much worse supporting cast than Seattle does. At the end of the season, New York will probably make more changes, not excluding firing head coach Robert Saleh and offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett. Remarkably, Hackett might have more safety because of his connection to Aaron Rodgers.
If the Seahawks do not show vast improvement between now and the end of the season, perhaps the only thing saving Pete Carroll’s job titles would be the fact that Seattle has a sale to complete. Would owner Jody Allen see it as a risk to put the team for sale with an unproven regime in charge, especially because buyers may want to make hires of their own? Especially when looking at the disaster in Denver last year, when the Broncos were sold with Hackett and Russell Wilson as a package deal?
Carroll is stability, experience, culture, and prestige. If he wasn’t the Seahawks head coach already and he was available, he’d be just the type of head coach that Seattle would hire in 2024 if they were looking for one.
So if not Pete, then it has to be somebody, right? And just cutting Geno Smith may not cut it enough.
Staying in that range of Game 5-Game 11:
The Seahawks 32.6% third down conversions ranks 27th
Seahawks are 25th in points per game
Passing offense does not rank in the top-20 in comp%, TD, TD%, INT%, passer rating, adjusted NY/A, DVOA, sack%
Seattle is 18th in yards per play
They next face a Cowboys defense that is fifth in points per drive allowed, fourth in points, third in yards, second in passing yards, four in yards per attempt, and cornerback DaRon Bland has already set an NFL record for pick-sixes in a single season with five.
In their last three games, Dallas has won 49-17, 33-10, and 45-10.
I will add that those games came against teams the Seahawks have faced and though Seattle won all of those contests, look at the score differences: Giants 24-3, Panthers 37-27, and Moons 29-26.
The Cowboys beat the Rams 43-20 at the end of October, a team that swept the Seahawks this season.
After playing the Cowboys next Thursday night, it’s time for the rematch with the 49ers.
In the third upcoming contest, Philadelphia isn’t as stout as they were en route to last season’s Super Bowl. But the Eagles are 9-1 and just held the Chiefs to 17 points in a victory on Monday Night Football.
The Seahawks can’t score, can’t protect the football, can’t really run, can’t block that well, can’t sustain drives, rank 30th on third down, 26th in red zone conversion rate, and that’s just the offense.
I could write about the defense but it’s a four-day weekend and I’m sure we could all use the break.
Will the Seahawks fire Shane Waldron in the middle of a season? I highly doubt it. Will the Seahawks have the same coaches at the top next season?
Something needs to change. If it’s not the results, it will have to be the coaches.
The biggest problem with our offense isn't Geno, or our O-line, or the plays that Waldron draws up. We simply don't have an offensive identity. We did for a while early in the season when 80% of our O-line was injured and we did a ton of heavy personnel sets (12 and 13 personnel) and it worked great! I think we got away from that to give JSN more snaps and opportunities, but while JSN has been getting better and better our offense has gotten worse and worse. I think this ties together the various comments from Pete and Joe about the offense. For example: we've not been able to run effectively because our O-line isn't super great at run blocking without help from TEs/Bobo, but we keep trying to force 11 personnel to get JSN/Tyler/DK all on the field at the same time. Since we can't establish the run, our play-action game (Geno's strongest suit) suffers since defenses don't care about the run threat and blow up the boots and other concepts. I agree with Pete that JSN is an amazing talent, but to get him on the field we should be reducing the snaps of DK and Lockett, not sacrificing our offensive identity which *should* be heavy personnel runs and then play-action passes off of that.
It would be so interesting to know Waldron's private thoughts on the QB situation. Does he see the plays fail and think "that would have worked if Geno wasn't the QB."
I would put Waldron on the hot seat because everyone associated with the offense should be feeling heat for not getting it done.